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Colors vs Values artist's tip and technique in digital illustration

Colors vs Value compare for artists.   Artist's tip and technique in digital illustration

Here is the definition of value from Munsell
Value, or lightness, varies vertically along the color solid, from black (value 0) at the bottom, to white (value 10) at the top. Neutral grays lie along the vertical axis between black and white.

Here's an excerpt from what Craig Mullins (Master Painter) says on the matter of values:
"Decide what is in light and what is in shadow and don’t mix them up. Think like a comic artist. Two values, but if they are well thought out and designed and drawn they can look totally real. Think like that, but instead of making the light white and the shadow black, make the light a 7 and the shadow a 3. Then go ahead and use 5-10 in the light and 1-3 in the shadow to pull out sub forms. DO NOT use 1-5 in any part of the light, or use 5-10 in any areas of the dark. Keep you edges a little softer in the shadows, a little sharper in the light, you are done. (0 is black, 10 is white) Deciding what is in shadow and light for a particular object is pretty hard in words. I will leave that up to you and that is 99 percent of the struggle."

"Hierarchal significance for any color: 1. Value 2. Saturation 3. Hue" -Craig Mullins

Observations, experiments and rants on the production and practice of digital art. The open notebooks of Joseph Francis. Artists struggle over getting correct colors, yet often neglect to get correct values, in spite of the fact that of the two, values are more important than colors at revealing an object's form.

Notice in this image demonstrates if the values are distorted or wrong,
then you cannot even tell what is the picture really is (roll #3 the 2nd pic).
On the other hand, if the value is correct no matter what color you paint in
the shape and readability most likely will maintain ( roll #2, 3rd pic)

Ref image by Joseph Francis
Let me know what do you guys think?
Does this article explain to you more about colors and values in comparison?

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Dahaca said…
How to make glowly lights ?
Knuckles930 said…
You struck gold bro, very clear and
the illustration makes it very easy
to understand.
idrawgirls said…
dahaca> Dodge tool or layer brother on mid values of any color.
Look at this tut:

Knuckle> I thought so brother, stumble upon that image is money!!!
Thanks to the internet.
Luca said…
Nice work bro... good job! :)

Thanks for the share
pokepetter said…
Oh. I've seen these before^^ I remember digging a forum to find that post from spooge demon.
snow said…
Just a big suck up message again to say thanks so much Xia for all you do for the community, the three in depth tutorials i have purchased have really taught me how to paint! Obviously I still have lots of work to do but all my friends are impressed!

Just so thrilled I have this resource I thought I better post to get it out of my system.


Oh and PS if I follow your tutorials and come up with a similar image, can I put it on my deviantart (with reference to you) or would you rather me not for copyright sake?
idrawgirls said…
Sorry guys, haven't up date in a while. Been sick on and off...blame the weather and not enough sleep. Anyway, the whole weekend was a blur...lots of medicine. It's been years since I got really sick. :)


Pokepetter> thanks

Snow> Thank you brother, :) Hey if you did it then it's yours, it's not like you using somebody's image and claim it's yours. You have all the right to post it because you yourself did it. :)
Keep up the good work! I will try to keep posting more tut as soon as I recover. :)
TOMAS said…
Thank you for the post. It was worthy pondering deeper indeed.
After reading Colors vs Values, I hope to improve the outlook of my works.
idrawgirls said…
Tomas> You bet! I too hope so...
Marcker said…
I've been taught to use color AS value in most cases...Using a dark violet/red violet to shade a flesh tone...So I'd have to say they go hand-in-hand, evenly. Plus I just like colors :D
idrawgirls said…
Marcker> You are right, but when we talk values...we are not just talking about black, gray, white. Values in all colors. Also there is a rule we live by "Cool light, warm shadow vs Warm light Cool shadow." Flesh tone are also tricky...the lighter the skin tone, the cooler the skin become so red violet would work. But yes if the skin has warmer color, then blue violet could be used for shadow. There are certain area of the figure that are warmer than the rest most of the time, like hands, fingers, ect. Thanks for the comment.